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March 24, 2010

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HI,
I came to this site by chance. what is GP and LP ?

thx !

Harry DeMott

Great post.

Most people have little understanding of nor think of the economics of the underlying investors.

What is interesting for LP's is that in order to make the most of a fat company - they need to participate equally in the fattening of the company - which is great if the company starts thin and gets fat because they are making progress - but of course given any sort of positive outcome - the later round investments (assuming all up rounds) are going to produce lower returns - but perhaps excellent risk adjusted returns.

On the other hand, thin companies can produce great returns on capital - and great multiples of capital - but with so little capital employed - gross $'s returned are going to be lower.

This debate gets into the question of just how high the returns on the thin winners will be - and just how many winners employers of the thin route will bring.

VC is pretty much a slugging percentage game - and not a batting average game - so what you need as an LP is a slugger who manages to hit it big when they have an opportunity to fatten up a company. Everyone can point to EBAY which was a thing start-up and a huge return - and others - but the more likely case is a much smaller return off a much higher capital base. You hope for a Google - but you get a 3 bagger - that's the reality if you are lucky.

Tim Cunningham

Chris,

Agree with the post and enjoy the creative spin. In my experience as a placement agent, I have noticed that very few GPs have any understanding of an LP's world. This is particularly odd, in my opinion, because the LPs are their customers--and any GP in any segment of the PE market knows how important customers are.

With respect to capital efficiency, one of the biggest issues has to do with the ecology of the world of institutional investors as compared to the ecology of the venture capital world. The VC world has drifted upwards in AUM over time, but there is an upper limit to that process, regardless of whether the GP is committing big bucks or small to any given portfolio company.

This upper limit has as much to do with the structure and function of the VC organization. Venture guys are active investors. Their value-add can be nominal or significant, but each portfolio company takes a lot of time. There is an upper limit to the number of active portfolio companies any venture guy can reasonably handle. This limits the growth of the AUM to some number that's relatively small in the world of institutional investing.

Even if the small fund of, say, $50 to $100 million is way more efficient with its use of capital, and even if that were shown to be a positive thing for the cash-on-cash multiples, these funds are simply too small to raise capital from many of the most actively allocating (read larger) institutions who do not want to be more than, say 10% of the pool.

On the other side of things, a larger venture fund that approaches, say, $1 billion in size, cannot effectively staff and manage small allocations to innumerable portfolio companies. So the push-pull of the ecologies of both the GP and LP worlds have a lot to do with how investments get sized.

Just my two cents.

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